Example of what I have. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016 I don't have to do anything to it besides the initial install. That HDD would be a better bet.
Just having a look around at water coolers and noticing they all come with fans built on. The HAF-X I'm looking at comes with a metric f**kton of fans already, presumably I'll need to replace one with the liquid cooler fan? This is the kind of thing I'd probably work out myself if I was able to just buy stuff and physically examine it in detail. If I'm actually reaaaaaally wrong about that and it doesn't actually come with the fans then I'll be looking for a lot more fans to put in. I figured it would make sense to go with a Cooler Master system for cooling simply for some consistency. My current gaming laptop is a Cooler Master build as far as I'm aware (it came in a box from them anyway).
Yes the HAF-X case does come with a great deal of fans and some are huge. You won't have to worry about airflow for sure. I replaced the original rear fan in mine with the H80 water cooler which also has a fan that attaches to the reservoir. Cooling System 1 x 140mm rear fan 1 x 200mm top fan 1 x 200mm side fan 1 x 230mm front red LED on / off fan
So in terms of 140mm fan liquid cooler systems, this seems to be the only available option on Newegg which isn't too much at £100. In terms of fixing the reservoir to the CPU, is there any variation in size or is there a standard size? (Projected cost update: ~£1780) EDIT: I have found the socket compatibility and alas it doesn't seem to be compatible with the LGA 1151. I'm going to assume that its compatibility with the LGA 1150 would still not be good enough as what little I do know about CPUs is that everything about them is super precise. EDIT2: So this seems to be a cheaper alternative that is compatible.
Yeah it would need to match the exact socket for sure. That H90 looks nice and I have no doubt it will be a solid cooling system.
Well I've spent my day starting on a schematic for me to work out precisely every part I'll need (down to tha last cable) and may have got carries away with the motherboard details... Now the main question I have regarding the layout of the motherboard is how clear it will be exactly what all of the various multi-pin connectors are for. Those that are labelled in the diagram are labelled in other websites. EDIT: zooming in on the image on Newegg does show me some of the circuit-board's labelling so I am able to determine some of the connectors based on that (e.g. top right white 4-pin connector is for the water pump on liquid coolers).
Here's a .pdf of the file so far. Also just submitted a few invoices so should be in receipt of just over £3000 in the coming weeks. This means I can soon actually start to buy parts. Will still try and confirm a complete build before buying anything to avoid buying the wrong stuff because I'm stupid like that.
I'm looking at SSDs and I've seen good reviews suggesting the Samsung 850 EVO is pretty much one of the best. However I'm just looking at the ports and it's a SATA 3 interface which as far as I can see would not be compatible with the Z170 mobo. Am I being thick or is that correct?
Yep I can vouch for that. I have several 850 evos and they run great. SATA III is the same thing as SATA 6gb/s....same interface, so you won't have any issue with that drive with that board. Here's a snippet explaining SATA III as well.
Sounds perfect then. None in stock on Newegg but Scan have me covered for that, along with the case. Price pretty much as I had estimated too which is good!
So currently more or less finalised what I'm after. Attached is a .jpg export of the vector file, and below is the list of components and links to each: Case: HAF-X (£150) MoBo: ASUS Z170-DELUXE LGA 1151, Intel Z170 Chipset (£210) CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K, Quad 4.0 GHz (£242) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 SC Edition (£580) Memory: G.SKILL TridentZ 32GB (2x16GB) 288pin (£125) Boot drive: Samsung EVO 850, 256GB SSD (£72) Storage dive: WD Black 3TB HDD - 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (£106) Cooling: Corsair Hydro H90 140mm HP Liquid Cooling System (£77) OS: Windows 10 Home, 32/64bit English (£85) Total cost: ~£1660 This leaves me with a fair bit of budget to buy a decent monitor, and the Acer 23.8" G247HYU seems like a decent one to go for, and at £190 it seems cheap enough as well. Any other recommendations? Aiming for 24" ideally.
Update, now with second build suggestions courtesy of Acorn! Called them your builds for simplicity even if some of the parts are my additions/sourcing. King8Bit Build (£1910) Case: HAF-X (£132) PSU: SILVERSTONE ST70F-ESG 700W ATX12V (£69) GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 EVGA SC (£580) CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K Quad 4.0GHz (£242) MoBo: ASUS Z170-DELUXE LGA 1151 Intel Z170 (£210) SSD: Samsung 850 EVO, 256GB (£72) HDD: WD Black 3TB HDD - 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (£106) RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ 32GB (2x16GB) 288pin F4-3200C16D-32GTZA (£124) Cooling: Corsair Hydro H90 140mm HP Liquid (£72) OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit DVD English (£119) Monitor: 23.8" Acer Zeroframe 2560x1440 60Hz 4ms (£190) Acorn Build (£2065) Case: HAF-X (£132) PSU: SILVERSTONE ST70F-ESG 700W ATX12V (£69) GPU: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080 (£630) CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K Quad 4.0GHz (£242) MoBo: ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VIII HERO ALPHA (£193) SSD: Samsung 850 PRO, 256GB (£87) HDD: HGST Ultrastar 7k4000 (0F14683) 4TB (£167) RAM: G.SKILL TridentZ 32GB (2x16GB) 288pin (£141) Cooling: Corsair H100i V2 Hydro/Water CPU Cooler (£90) OS: Windows 10 Pro 64-bit DVD English (£119) Monitor: 23.8" Acer Zeroframe 2560x1440 60Hz 4ms (£190) As you can see there's certain things that are the same for both. Still shopping around and went to a local shop here called Maplins today where the sales guy suggested they could potentially get a lot of the stuff for less, especially if buying large amounts of stuff. Going to send them the product codes to see what price they can offer me. We'll see what they can do!
@Weasel - Assuming you are asking for suggestions, I'll spoiler sections to save the long scroll and block of text - Mobo I'd personally recommend the ASUS ROG over the Z170 - plus the color scheme is easier to work with, assuming you care for that at all. Some people care about colors/lights/schemes, some don't. SSD As for the SSD - I personally prefer Hybrid drives for a number of reasons, but you have an M.2 slot, so I recommend using it. The Plextor M6e is about the same cost as the EVO drive and outperforms both listed. RAM I don't know what I may have missed from discussions, or if you may for some odd reason need a large amount of RAM or fast speeds or something like that, but I'm assuming it's been neglected to be mentioned that when it comes to gaming that RAM does very, very little. Virtually nothing. Especially when you're looking at DDR4. For this reason, I'd honestly recommend cutting down a bit unless it's necessary. 16GB should be plenty for any game out there (even TERA and Siege, the most resource intensive games I've played lately, have capped out at 6GB for me) and decent 16GB kits can be found for 40-60 pounds. If you were to change up the rig more, even 32GB DDR3 kits can be found for 30-50 pounds cheaper. Anyway, a starting point of what I was looking at - something else will likely be recommended, but it's meant as a starting point for cutting down on unneeded costliness. Case and Liquid Cooling Case + Liquid Cooling - 40 pounds more than the case, but no other liquid cooling necessary. Comes with it. I know it seems odd, but I'm pretty certain it'll work preeeetty well. (It also has a couple different colors if you like that type of thing.) Everything Else The only concern I have with the PSU is I don't know if all the cables can reach everywhere - I'm not an expert with that. If the others here give it a thumbs up, I'm sure it'll be fine, though it also generally isn't an issue. Really haven't even heard of issues with PSU cables being too short, even with my former roommate's giant-ass Zalman case. For the HDD, I prefer WD/Seagate over most others - I haven't had issues with them and generally nothing can go wrong if you're careful (keep things clean, make sure there's no static discharge, so on) and I don't get the Ultrastar pick. (Acorn knows something I don't?) 5TB WD Black is cheaper than the Ultrastar, but I'm (yet again) partial to SSHDs. The major issue with this is to get decent performance with it, particularly considering you'd likely be installing most of your games to it, you would have to partition the drive a few times. I have my 1TB split into two partitions, so a 4TB would likely need 8-12 partitions (maybe less, depends) - that can get kinda confusing. Ultimately, you have some flexibility here and lies with your preference, I think. As for Intel/Nvidia configs... /starthaterant I'm getting increasingly annoyed with how both companies run things. Not to say people can't have their preferences or anything, I just find it beyond ridiculous that the last architecture that Intel actually soldered their heatsink on as well as used decent thermal paste was 11 years ago - Sandy-Bridge. The fact that even on an $1800 chip you have to delid it to get some form of performance gain that is necessary, alongside a liquid cooling system, is beyond unbelievable - especially when in some cases it can save you 20C. On the same hand, Nvidia keeps "pushing the envelope" with their "amazing innovations" and enormous price tags while their equipment still uses more wattage than the competition, typically runs warmer than the competition, and is also typically louder than the competition. Though I suppose the same goes for Intel. Not to mention the consistent pushing of half-baked drivers that result in severe problems for many, many users on a certain architecture, or their software being so shoddy you have to disable something, or multiple somethings, to get a game to run. All in all, you're paying twice as much for two key components that give small performance gains and will, in the end, be nigh unnoticeable at the downsides of much higher temps and energy usage, ultimately increasing your likely hood of something going wrong. //endhaterant I would be lying if I said they were at all worth the extra penny.
It's funny what you're saying about M2 SSDs, I had pretty much the same said to me at the shop I went into yesterday morning. That guy seemed pretty damn pleased to have someone in there to talk PC components at. He was pretty keen on me looking at them as well. In terms of RAM, it's not just gaming. My work involves some technical software that could use a little bit more speed. Also this is future-proofing. I ain't planning on replacing much for the next 5 years or so. On 16GB at the moment, and just going for the 32GB means I'm pretty much set for a long time. The case is something I'm pretty set on. I want to have decent airflow (sure it will be loud) so keeping the two seperate means I always have the option to switch around if I need/want to. PSU-wise, I did see a 750W PSU at the shop yesterday and wonder if it might make sense to get that extra 50W just to make sure I'm set. In my job I spend a lot of time dealing with power limits and having spare is always a good buffer. Not sure how well that transfers across to PCs but I know that drawing too much is pretty darn bad when it comes to mains power. Cable lengths are cable lengths, can't do much about that and can always lengthen them if I have to. HDD: My initial thought was to go with WD as I've never had issues with WD or Seagate drives, but Acorn's input suggested the SAS drive would serve me better. You can say what you like about graphics cards, but I've always had NVIDIA GPUs and they've never let me down. They provide me with the usability I want and I can't say I've had any issues with them. The Gigabyte version is probably my favourite of the two as it also allows for monitor upgrades when prices drop on 4k in the next few years. @Supplice TL;DR: - SSD: I'm looking at that option - RAM: Nah I want 32GB - Case/cooling: I like the shiz I got here - PSU: Cross that bridge when I get to it - HDD: Still not sure - GPU: You ain't got no pancake mix in thar